Donna Kay Thorngren
This
is one of those tough cases for me where I am left wondering what to
think about the verdict. This mainly comes from the fact that I am
unsure just exactly what evidence the prosecutors had against
Thorngren and just how reliable that evidence happened to be. Much
of the media hype surrounded first the fact that Donna and her son,
Austin were arrested in connection with the murder of Donna's
husband, Curtis. Then it surrounded the issue that one of Austin's
friends planned to testify that he had a conversation with Austin
after Curtis' murder but before his body was found in which he
allegedly implicated his mother. This became what investigators
called the “shed statement.” This statement, whether true or not,
was to play a huge role in this case. First it was the reason that
Donna's defense asked, and was granted the right, to have her trial
severed from her son's. It was of the believe that the statement
could possibly be used against Austin, who was facing a charge of
accessory, but not against Donna. To have one trial and this
statement come out could have prejudiced a jury against Donna.
However, just before her trial the judge ruled that the statement
could be presented to her jury under the “hearsay” rule that it
was considered to be a “excited utterance.”
Now,
I am not going to give a full lesson in the hearsay rules because of
all of the court rules the hearsay rules are the most confusing and
the most talked about. What I will do is try to give a short version
of understanding. The rule is that anything said literally outside a
court room is hearsay and you will hear it said that “hearsay” is
not allowed into courts as evidence. Well, that is not completely
true. There are several exceptions to the hearsay rules and one of
them allows a statement made to be entered when a court determines it
is a “excited utterance.” Basically what this rule states is
that when someone is upset or stressed they say things without
thinking beforehand and it is believe that it is these statements
that are most truthful. There are several other types of exceptions
that allow statements made to enter the courtroom, but this is the
one important here.
On
Sunday January 12, 2003 Curtis Thorngren was shot dead in the
bathroom of his home in Meridan Idaho. Curtis and Donna had three
children, Austin and twin daughters, Ana Lisa and Amber. According
to family members at the time of his murder the family had
experienced several break-ins in their home, especially on Sundays.
They allege that the belief was that son, Austin, who was involved in
drugs and other crimes had brought these robberies onto the family
due to some of his associations. The continue to allege that Curtis
had decided that someone should be home at all times because it was
when they were gone that the home was allegedly broken into. Now,
whether law enforcement could confirm these robberies or break ins is
not clear. They did confirm in some way that Austin did have legal
issues involving drugs and “other crimes” as they seem to believe
that Curtis had stated that when Austin turned eighteen he was to
move out of the family home. Austin would have been eighteen two
days after his father was murdered in the home. Surprisingly,
despite this it seems that few believe that Austin was actually
involved and his “accessory” charge, which would eventually be
dropped alleged he knew only after his mother had murdered his
father.
Prosecutors
would allege that the motive behind the murders was life insurance.
Curtis worked for Hewlett Packard and two months prior to his murder
his insurance was increased from $128,000 to $320,000. The new
policy went into effect on January 1, 2003. It seems that
prosecutors allege that Donna had pushed Curtis to up his insurance.
However, it has also been alleged that all employees of Hewlett
Packard were given the same opportunity at the same time to increase
their life insurance. The family also alleges that DNA was not
gathered or tested under Curtis' nails among other things that may
have pointed to other suspects in the case.
And
then there was the “shed statement.” The statement in court was
made by Austin's friend Adam Ketterling. Let me be clear in the fact
that my understanding was that this “shed” was likely more in
tune with a “man cave” of sorts and had furniture inside.
According to Ketterling, Austin had a conversation with Donna inside
in which he personally was not privy to. However he claimed that
just after Donna left and he found Austin shaking and in what
appeared to be shock. He claimed that when he asked Austin what was
wrong he had stated “I think my mom did it” and he took that to
mean that Donna had killed Curtis as he had allegedly heard this
being an option at some point. Austin has stated that he did not
make this statement and defense attorney's allege that by his own
admission Adam was under the influence of drugs at the time he claims
the statement was made. Donna's defense also allege that it was
friends of Austin's that were suspect in the home break ins and that
Adam had a motive behind claiming this statement to be true.
Donna
was convicted in the first degree murder of her husband and in
October of 2007 she was sentenced to life in prison. Her family,
including her children, have adamantly disagreed with the verdict
from the jury. Comments made by them can be found throughout the
Internet. At some point they did apparently also have a website
called donnathorngren.com to help prove her innocence but that
website is no longer available. According to the Department of
Corrections website in Idaho her first hearing for parole is to be in
February of 2027 with an eligibility date in August of that year.
In
November of 2007 Austin made a deal with prosecutors. The accessory
charge was dropped and he pleaded guilty to two probation violations
for using drugs and alcohol. He was sentenced to six months in jail
and five years probation. Throughout some of the comments made on
articles through the Internet he had allegedly pulled his life
together. However, that did not seem to stick. Austin too is
currently behind bars. The DOC site indicated that he was in for
“eluding a peace officer” and while I could not find anything
that stated when he went into prison he is eligible for parole in May
of 2019 with an official end of sentence being in May of 2022. It
appears that he may also have been charged with three counts of
burglary, possessing drug paraphernalia and another probation
violation. One comment made allegedly by a sister before he was
sentenced indicated that he was looking at a “long” sentence but
again I cannot say when this occurred or what happened.
As
far as Donna goes though, I have to say I am a bit on the fence and I
have to say it is because I just do not feel I found enough
information to decide whether I believe she was in fact guilty in the
murder of her husband or if an innocent woman sits in prison.
Several things factor into this. One is something that I read in one
of her appeals. While the prosecutors claim that the motive behind
the murder was for financial gain through the life insurance it is
indicated that she did not notify the insurance company of his death
until some four months after his murder. Since she was the “sole”
beneficiary and considered to be a suspect the insurance company did
not pay out on the policy. It seems that Donna then sued them. In
November of 2004 with the courts permission the insurance company
placed the monies from the polices, along with the interest earned
into an account under the courts holding. In June of 2005 they added
more money saying the original interest calculated had been
incorrect. It is unclear whatever came of this money. However,
another thing I find interesting about the insurance is that one of
the daughters claims that Curtis himself upped this insurance, adding
his kids to the policy, and she claims to have been there to see it,
indicating this was Curtis' sole idea. I honestly have to question
this statement a bit considering that the insurance company claimed
that Donna was the sole beneficiary and by the time she had contacted
them about the monies at least Austin was eighteen years of age. Of
course the policy could have read that the children did not have
access until an older age and Donna in charge of it until then, but I
still think that it was worth noting.
If
the family is correct in the fact that there was a lot of things that
could have been forensically tested, and yet was not, that also can
lead to questions. I would like to know if these alleged break ins
were reported to the police and how many there were. I understand
that when someone is murdered in their home DNA becomes a tricky
subject. When people live together their DNA can often be all over
each other. Had they tested the DNA under Curtis' fingernails and it
had pointed to Donna or possibly even Austin it would not have
necessarily said they were the killer with absolute certainty. But,
had the DNA belong to someone else, outside the home, then that could
have and should have made a difference. If the DNA had matched
someone in the home it would not have helped the defense but it would
not have necessarily hurt the prosecution. However, if the DNA
matched to someone outside the home it could have crushed the case
for the prosecutors. That being said, I still believe that it should
have been tests so that every T was crossed and I was dotted to show
that there was no other suspects.
While
the prosecution used the life insurance payout as a motive, they also
indicated that in addition to that Donna had murdered Curtis because
she disagreed with his stance on kicking Austin out of the home. The
defense argued that Donna had already made plans on what she intended
to do with Austin's room after he was out of the home so she had no
qualms with him leaving the home. The fact that Austin's eighteenth
birthday was just two days away left some with a bad taste in their
mouths and two theories to throw around. One is that Donna is
innocent and that it was Austin who committed the murder to prevent
having to leave the home. The other theory that has been bounced
around is that Donna is guilty of the crime but committed it when it
was so that there would be suspicion thrown in Austin's direction.
Both could be viable options in my opinion if more were known about
the case and the evidence.
In
order to keep faith in the justice system I have to believe that
there was much more evidence than I was able to gather in my research
and it was this evidence that led the jury to their decision. I am
unsure that unless a juror comes out and speaks that we will know for
sure. It appears that Curtis' family firmly believe in Donna's
guilty while her children and her family believe in her innocence.
The daughters no longer believe in their mother's innocence.
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You make some great points, but you skim over Austin's drug issues. That "shed" statement? It was made to a pal Austin did meth with, for heaven's sake. One of his sisters as much as admitted that their father knew nothing about Austin's problems until the situation was out of control -- because her mother wanted it that way. Their father wanted to go the "tough love" route and kick the boy out once he turned 18. That birthday was 3 days after the murder. Coincidence? Um. Maybe not. Would Donna kill her own husband to make sure her son didn't end up on the street? Maybe so.....his whole life she protected and shield him, that's hard to quit doing, even when that kid is throwing his life away drugging himself up. As the poster below notes, her daughters have rethought their stance, and now believe their Mom lied aboit it all. They now think she either did it herself or had something to do with it. Sorry, but it sounds to me that this woman is right where she belongs.
ReplyDeleteReading this shows the evidence we went through for years trying to find the truth. I do not believe the courts proved without a reasonable doubt that my mom did this. Did she protect Austin? She thought she was. The prosecutors offered her a deal for a 10 year sentence and they would drop Austin's charges and mom said no. The insurance money she did receive and it all went to her attorney and bond to have her out for a year while we prepped for trial. The case is not over and won't be until we find the truth. I know mom was involved but to what extent I still don't know. I believe mom's friend Eileen Martinez should be in jail with her because she was with mom and only her and mom know the truth. Austin has no clue as to the details of what happened. He knows mom was involved but the details she won't say. We went to confront my mom and the coldness in her eyes to us defeated our hearts. It took a while to get feelings for her again but she is my mom. I just want the truth.
ReplyDeleteSaw update on tv on show "Til Death Do Us Part" S1 Ep #6 at the end. Daughter Anna Lisa is shown speaker about a call from brother Austin in 2015 telling her that their mother was in fact guilty of killing their father.
ReplyDeleteAnnaLisa- I knew you mom and dad. I pray that whatever the truth is that it finally comes out. I know you kids and the rest of the families need to know what happened. From the time Austin was little, Donna Kay treated him like a king and perfect child. He was bully in the nursery when he was a toddler and pre-school age. Her idea was he was the victim and the kids should always give him what he wanted. When I heard about Curt's death, my thoughts went to Donna and you girls. I was sure Austin was involved. When Austin entered the funeral he struck me that he was strutting like he had no cares in the world, not a boy whose father died, much less murdered. Even now everything in me says Donna Kay took the fall for Austin or helped him somehow. I can't get my head around your mom really shot Curt. I can see her protecting Austin from consequences and Austin letting her. You are very articulate on the show and I hope you all can come to a place to move forward. The photos of your mom really do have dead eyes, no longer full of rage like the first picture.
ReplyDeleteI think it's pretty rude for you to basically sit there and insult every member of the family as if you were inside the minds of any of them! It's ridiculous for you to blame Austin without any kind of evidence to back that up! Maybe he walked into that funeral strutting around with his head held high because he didn't know the answer. He didn't know exactly what had happened, but he did know one thing, people like you were definitely going to blame him! There are many spoiled children out there that are protected by their parents when maybe they didn't deserve to be, that does not make them a murderer OR someone that would protect a murderer! You need to pull your head out of your butt and open your eyes and really look closely at the situation! Quit making Austin a scapegoat! You, like everyone else, do not know what happened in that house that day.... including Austin! He has spent close to 20 years having everyone around him wondering what he knows about his father, and it has affected him in every way possible! People like you have succeeded in ruining his life! He has tried and tried to get somewhere in life and put those miserable years behind him, but people like you won't let that happen! It probably would have been easier for him to sit in prison for the last 20 years then to deal with what he has had to deal with from people like you!
DeleteThe jury got it right. She had lots and lots of motive!
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