Gregory "Chad" Wallin-Reed
While searching this case I found a lot of controversy surrounding it. Many believe that while California does not have a specific "Stand Your Ground" law they do follow the Castle doctrine laws which allows a person to use deadly force if necessary to protect themselves and their property. However, the trick to this, and why so many of those who use these laws as a defense, is that you have to reasonably believe you are in imminent danger. As with so many other laws of the country people attempt to run them as thin as they possibly can and still expect the law to protect them. This case surrounds the stealing of a solar light. And for that one man is dead and another is serving a sentence of eighty plus years in prison.
In the early hours of July 1, 2011 in Plumas County California a car full of six young men, all ages nineteen and twenty, had been out driving around. The night prior they had found their way to the remote area in which "Chad" Wallin-Reed, had a cabin. The Wallin-Reed family and at least one other couple were spending the holiday weekend at the cabin. On the first night the car with the young men pulled up and one of the men got out near the entrance of the property. They had shined a spotlight they had on a few signs at the entrance and after just a few minutes had stolen a laser light. The following morning Wallin-Reed guests, Criag and Jennifer Schermerhorn were informed by Chad Wallin-Reed that he and his wife had seen a bright light near the entrance the night before and he was concerned. It seems that sometime in 2010 the cabin had been broken into but I could only find a small reference to it and nothing specific.
Then, nearly twenty-four hours later things would start out like deja vu, but this time things would end much differently. Once again, a car with these six young men (five were the same as the night before but one was different) pulled up to the property and one of the occupants got out to steal a solar light. Up the hill Chad Wallin-Reed could see someone was down there and he picked up the AR15 that was near him on the porch and claims to have shot a warning shot in the air. All the occupants hurriedly got back into the car and driver, twenty year old Rory McGuire sped off.
Rather than call the police or let things go, Wallin-Reed grabbed his AR15 and took chase. It took a forensic analysis group to determine what happened next because stories varied. The only consistent thing was that when it was all over Rory McGuire would be left shot in the head while two of his friends were shot in the leg and Wallin-Reed had caused those injuries.
It was determined that Wallin-Reed had chased after the car containing the young men for nearly eight miles. The occupants of the car stated that throughout the chase they had seen green and red laser lights and that they were being shot at by the truck following them. They would say there were sometimes pauses between the shots indicating the driver was re-loading. The front seat passenger, Cesar Gonzalez, claimed that at some point he had taken the spotlight the occupants had in the car and attempted to shine it at the driver behind them in hopes of blinding him. As the bullet continued to fly Gonzalez decided hanging out the window was not a smart idea. Throughout the chase the stolen solar light was throughout out the window and there was even attempts to waive a white t-shirt in surrender. The truck kept pursuing.
Things got a little confusing then. McGuire it seems either missed a turn or got turned around near a field in the remote area. After reading several articles, as well as an appeals record I am unsure as to if McGuire wrecked his car at this point by running over a rock in the field and busting his oil pan or if he successfully got turned around. Wallin-Reed would claim that they came directly towards him but a forensic analysis indicates the vehicle was next to him going the opposite direction when more shots were fired. At any rate McGuire was hit and Gonzalez got the vehicle stopped.
Three of the occupants, Gonzalez, John Chanley and his brother, Tommy Chanley, got out of the car and headed toward the woods when they saw Wallin-Reed had also stopped his truck, got out and was headed to their vehicle, still gun in hand. Driver, Rory McGuire had already been shot in the head and lay dying. Two other occupants, Robert Osornio and Justin Smyth had gun shot wounds to their legs so they could not escape. According to Osornio and Smyth, Wallin-Reed came over to the car and yelled "You mother fuckers come to my house and shoot? I got kids," or at least something like this. The two men begged for their lives, insisted they had not shot at anyone or anything and also begged Wallin-Reed to send an ambulance. Wallin-Reed turned around, got in his truck and left.
Once he was gone the Chanley brothers and Gonzalez made their way back to the car. There was no cell phone service in the area and they attempted to get the car started to get help for the injured people but the car would not start due to the damaged oil pan. Gonzalez and Tommy Chanley left to get help.
In the meantime Wallin-Reed headed back to his cabin. When he arrived he informed the others there that he had he believed he may have killed someone. He never mentioned that he had been fired upon by the occupants. Wallin-Reed waited approximately fifteen to thirty minutes before going back down the hill and calling to report the incident. A sheriff and a game warden responded to his call. At this point Wallin-Reed still made no mention of the occupants shooting at him. In the meantime Gonzalez and Chanley had found their way to a campground area and was finally able to obtain help and get information to authorities.
In my research it indicates that Gonzalez and Chanley were put in handcuffs when they were found, presumably for the original theft to begin with. By the time help arrived onto the scene of the McGuire car it had been two to three hours since the incident occurred.
In his first taped interview with authorities Wallin-Reed told his version of events that evening. It was now that he mentions that while chasing the car he believed he had seen a muzzle flash and that he was being shot at. He did agree that he had seen a spotlight shone at him also. Wallin-Reed admits firing at the occupants but it takes a few interviews before he admits to using anything more than a Ruger .380 that he kept in his truck. He would later admit to the AR15 being used. The AR15 was equipped with a red dot scope and a green laser while the .380 had a red laser. This accounts for the lasers seen by the occupants of McGuire's car. All of the occupants insisted they not only had not fired at Wallin-Reed but that they did not have a gun. No gun was found. However, as I often do I feel I need to play devil's advocate here and state that if the occupants did have a gun they had plenty of time and places to get rid of it. In my opinion, and from a legal standpoint I honestly believe if they had a gun, and if they had fired it would have likely been moot to begin with.
No one at the cabin would claim to have heard any shots at the cabin on either night the boys admit to being there, beyond the "warning" shot that Wallin-Reed admits to firing. After they had sped away Wallin-Reed took chase and at this point he became the aggressor. His life, nor the lives of his family, or even his property were no longer in danger. There is no doubt that he was the one who chased these boys eight miles from the original incident. Had they in fact, had a gun, and they had fired it at the truck, they would have had more of a reason and legal standing than Wallin-Reed had at that moment. It should also be said that Wallin-Reed's truck was examined and there was no damage caused by any bullets. The same could not be said for the McGuire vehicle.
Rory McGuire would die two days later at the hospital so this became an even much more serious case.
Ultimately Wallin-Reed was charged with murder in the first degree along with seven other felonies including firing at an occupied vehicle, possession of an illegal assault rifle and five counts of assault with a deadly weapon. This is where the defense attempted to use in essence a Stand Your Ground defense, claiming that the occupants of the car had shot at him and he was defending himself and his property. A forensic analysis of the crime was re-enacted to determine if Wallin-Reed's story or the story of the occupants in the car was more accurate. The route had been taken that was taken that night and any evidence along the way had been collected. Several casings were found on the road in the route, most of which belonged to the guns that Wallin-Reed admitted to firing but in fairness there were other shell casings too. It would be claimed that in this remote area finding casings was not unusual but again, nothing indicated that the occupants of the car had been armed. Due to the position of the bullet holes, as well as the gun shot residue in and around the McGuire car it was determined that when the car had turned around and Wallin-Reed admitted to firing into it, it was done so with the car next to the truck, and not in front of him as he had claimed.
Prosecutors were also able to point out that Wallin-Reed had never claimed to his house guests, originally to the sheriff nor to his father on a jail house telephone conversation that the occupants ever shot at him. Instead Wallin-Reed would claim that his past military training had "kicked in" and this is what "drove" him to act. It would be said that he stated he was a Ranger in the military but it appears that while he had in fact been in the military but he had not seen any combat, meaning the prosecutors felt any claims that may have come back to PTSD or the like would have not been valid.
A twenty round magazine had been found for the AR15. One round had been found at the cabin indicating the warning shot Wallin-Reed admitted shooting. There were four live rounds left in the gun. Two six round magazines were found for the Ruger .380. One was empty, while the other held two rounds. Between this and the shell casings found it was determined that at least twenty-six rounds of ammo were fired at the occupants of the car.
It took the jury of ten women and two men less than three hours to determine that Wallin-Reed was guilty of all charges. For the murder charges he was sentenced to fifty years to life. He was given another thirty-four years and eight months for the remaining felony charges. He is in a California jail and will not be eligible for parole until 2092.
In February 2016 the courts would hear Wallin-Reed's appeal. One of the arguments in the appeal dealt with a picture that had been posted on Facebook by car occupant, John Chanley about seven months after the incident. Defense attorneys had attempted to get the picture into evidence but the trial judge had denied it. The appeals court affirmed this denial but it was quite interesting. In the picture Chanley is holding what was described as a knife and "what looks like a handgun" was in his pants. I find that wording strange as if to indicate that the handgun was questionable. The defense would attempt to claim that this picture proved that the occupants had access to and was armed the night of the incident. They also say that this contradicted a statement made by Cesar Gonzalez had made stating the boys "weren't like that" when asked about having a gun. As said, the appeals court agreed with the trial court, and I too agree. While the picture was posted a full seven months after the incident it was never determine just when the picture had been taken. To add to this even if it had been determined when the picture had taken place it did not prove that the occupants had a gun on the night of the incident. The picture could have been taken on the day of the incident and still it would not prove that there had been on on the occupants. And, even if it had been proven that they did have a gun in their possession one would have to prove it had been fired. Gun shot residue tests on the victims and the car indicated that all shots were fired from outside the vehicle. Reasonably McGuire likely had GSR on his body, as well as the two occupants who were shot in the leg. Not to mention the GSR likely would have spread throughout the vehicle and could have been transferred, especially when Gonzalez admitted to moving Rory McGuire in attempts first to steer the car to a stop and later to attempt to go get help.
There are those who still argue that Wallin-Reed was in the right and had the right to defend his life and property. I disagree. Obviously the kids in the car were not doing something they should have and were just "being kids" but the second that Wallin-Reed stepped off his property and took chase he was no longer defending his life and property because of imminent danger to himself, family or home. He chased these kids for eight miles over a solar light...well two if you count the night before, but he had no way of knowing for sure it was the same group of people the second night. There is a fine line in which Wallin-Reed crossed when he went from the victim of a crime to the aggressor in yet another crime. A young man lost his life over a solar light.
Now, I admit to know very little about guns, how to use them or their functions so I asked questions and researched about this AR15 because I have heard a lot of talk about it in recent years as it is a popular weapon used in a lot of the mass shootings we hear about. I am not necessarily against guns in any way but I do believe they should have a purpose. Whether that purpose is self defense or hunting makes no difference to me and when it comes to guns, they all hold deadly bullets. In this case it appears the AR15 became and "illegal assault rifle" not because of the gun itself but for the clips that were used in them. I have been informed that a clip that holds twelve rounds is the maximum allowed as a citizen. Wallin-Reed's clip held twenty, hence the charge.
I also want to point out that as I went to the California Department of Corrections website to look up information on Wallin-Reed, I also put in the names of the occupants of the vehicle. Of course the fact that I did not find any of them does not mean that they have not had legal trouble but I can say that none of them are currently in a California prison. Hopefully this incident taught them a lesson.
In the early hours of July 1, 2011 in Plumas County California a car full of six young men, all ages nineteen and twenty, had been out driving around. The night prior they had found their way to the remote area in which "Chad" Wallin-Reed, had a cabin. The Wallin-Reed family and at least one other couple were spending the holiday weekend at the cabin. On the first night the car with the young men pulled up and one of the men got out near the entrance of the property. They had shined a spotlight they had on a few signs at the entrance and after just a few minutes had stolen a laser light. The following morning Wallin-Reed guests, Criag and Jennifer Schermerhorn were informed by Chad Wallin-Reed that he and his wife had seen a bright light near the entrance the night before and he was concerned. It seems that sometime in 2010 the cabin had been broken into but I could only find a small reference to it and nothing specific.
Then, nearly twenty-four hours later things would start out like deja vu, but this time things would end much differently. Once again, a car with these six young men (five were the same as the night before but one was different) pulled up to the property and one of the occupants got out to steal a solar light. Up the hill Chad Wallin-Reed could see someone was down there and he picked up the AR15 that was near him on the porch and claims to have shot a warning shot in the air. All the occupants hurriedly got back into the car and driver, twenty year old Rory McGuire sped off.
Rather than call the police or let things go, Wallin-Reed grabbed his AR15 and took chase. It took a forensic analysis group to determine what happened next because stories varied. The only consistent thing was that when it was all over Rory McGuire would be left shot in the head while two of his friends were shot in the leg and Wallin-Reed had caused those injuries.
It was determined that Wallin-Reed had chased after the car containing the young men for nearly eight miles. The occupants of the car stated that throughout the chase they had seen green and red laser lights and that they were being shot at by the truck following them. They would say there were sometimes pauses between the shots indicating the driver was re-loading. The front seat passenger, Cesar Gonzalez, claimed that at some point he had taken the spotlight the occupants had in the car and attempted to shine it at the driver behind them in hopes of blinding him. As the bullet continued to fly Gonzalez decided hanging out the window was not a smart idea. Throughout the chase the stolen solar light was throughout out the window and there was even attempts to waive a white t-shirt in surrender. The truck kept pursuing.
Things got a little confusing then. McGuire it seems either missed a turn or got turned around near a field in the remote area. After reading several articles, as well as an appeals record I am unsure as to if McGuire wrecked his car at this point by running over a rock in the field and busting his oil pan or if he successfully got turned around. Wallin-Reed would claim that they came directly towards him but a forensic analysis indicates the vehicle was next to him going the opposite direction when more shots were fired. At any rate McGuire was hit and Gonzalez got the vehicle stopped.
Three of the occupants, Gonzalez, John Chanley and his brother, Tommy Chanley, got out of the car and headed toward the woods when they saw Wallin-Reed had also stopped his truck, got out and was headed to their vehicle, still gun in hand. Driver, Rory McGuire had already been shot in the head and lay dying. Two other occupants, Robert Osornio and Justin Smyth had gun shot wounds to their legs so they could not escape. According to Osornio and Smyth, Wallin-Reed came over to the car and yelled "You mother fuckers come to my house and shoot? I got kids," or at least something like this. The two men begged for their lives, insisted they had not shot at anyone or anything and also begged Wallin-Reed to send an ambulance. Wallin-Reed turned around, got in his truck and left.
Once he was gone the Chanley brothers and Gonzalez made their way back to the car. There was no cell phone service in the area and they attempted to get the car started to get help for the injured people but the car would not start due to the damaged oil pan. Gonzalez and Tommy Chanley left to get help.
In the meantime Wallin-Reed headed back to his cabin. When he arrived he informed the others there that he had he believed he may have killed someone. He never mentioned that he had been fired upon by the occupants. Wallin-Reed waited approximately fifteen to thirty minutes before going back down the hill and calling to report the incident. A sheriff and a game warden responded to his call. At this point Wallin-Reed still made no mention of the occupants shooting at him. In the meantime Gonzalez and Chanley had found their way to a campground area and was finally able to obtain help and get information to authorities.
In my research it indicates that Gonzalez and Chanley were put in handcuffs when they were found, presumably for the original theft to begin with. By the time help arrived onto the scene of the McGuire car it had been two to three hours since the incident occurred.
In his first taped interview with authorities Wallin-Reed told his version of events that evening. It was now that he mentions that while chasing the car he believed he had seen a muzzle flash and that he was being shot at. He did agree that he had seen a spotlight shone at him also. Wallin-Reed admits firing at the occupants but it takes a few interviews before he admits to using anything more than a Ruger .380 that he kept in his truck. He would later admit to the AR15 being used. The AR15 was equipped with a red dot scope and a green laser while the .380 had a red laser. This accounts for the lasers seen by the occupants of McGuire's car. All of the occupants insisted they not only had not fired at Wallin-Reed but that they did not have a gun. No gun was found. However, as I often do I feel I need to play devil's advocate here and state that if the occupants did have a gun they had plenty of time and places to get rid of it. In my opinion, and from a legal standpoint I honestly believe if they had a gun, and if they had fired it would have likely been moot to begin with.
No one at the cabin would claim to have heard any shots at the cabin on either night the boys admit to being there, beyond the "warning" shot that Wallin-Reed admits to firing. After they had sped away Wallin-Reed took chase and at this point he became the aggressor. His life, nor the lives of his family, or even his property were no longer in danger. There is no doubt that he was the one who chased these boys eight miles from the original incident. Had they in fact, had a gun, and they had fired it at the truck, they would have had more of a reason and legal standing than Wallin-Reed had at that moment. It should also be said that Wallin-Reed's truck was examined and there was no damage caused by any bullets. The same could not be said for the McGuire vehicle.
Rory McGuire would die two days later at the hospital so this became an even much more serious case.
Ultimately Wallin-Reed was charged with murder in the first degree along with seven other felonies including firing at an occupied vehicle, possession of an illegal assault rifle and five counts of assault with a deadly weapon. This is where the defense attempted to use in essence a Stand Your Ground defense, claiming that the occupants of the car had shot at him and he was defending himself and his property. A forensic analysis of the crime was re-enacted to determine if Wallin-Reed's story or the story of the occupants in the car was more accurate. The route had been taken that was taken that night and any evidence along the way had been collected. Several casings were found on the road in the route, most of which belonged to the guns that Wallin-Reed admitted to firing but in fairness there were other shell casings too. It would be claimed that in this remote area finding casings was not unusual but again, nothing indicated that the occupants of the car had been armed. Due to the position of the bullet holes, as well as the gun shot residue in and around the McGuire car it was determined that when the car had turned around and Wallin-Reed admitted to firing into it, it was done so with the car next to the truck, and not in front of him as he had claimed.
Prosecutors were also able to point out that Wallin-Reed had never claimed to his house guests, originally to the sheriff nor to his father on a jail house telephone conversation that the occupants ever shot at him. Instead Wallin-Reed would claim that his past military training had "kicked in" and this is what "drove" him to act. It would be said that he stated he was a Ranger in the military but it appears that while he had in fact been in the military but he had not seen any combat, meaning the prosecutors felt any claims that may have come back to PTSD or the like would have not been valid.
A twenty round magazine had been found for the AR15. One round had been found at the cabin indicating the warning shot Wallin-Reed admitted shooting. There were four live rounds left in the gun. Two six round magazines were found for the Ruger .380. One was empty, while the other held two rounds. Between this and the shell casings found it was determined that at least twenty-six rounds of ammo were fired at the occupants of the car.
It took the jury of ten women and two men less than three hours to determine that Wallin-Reed was guilty of all charges. For the murder charges he was sentenced to fifty years to life. He was given another thirty-four years and eight months for the remaining felony charges. He is in a California jail and will not be eligible for parole until 2092.
In February 2016 the courts would hear Wallin-Reed's appeal. One of the arguments in the appeal dealt with a picture that had been posted on Facebook by car occupant, John Chanley about seven months after the incident. Defense attorneys had attempted to get the picture into evidence but the trial judge had denied it. The appeals court affirmed this denial but it was quite interesting. In the picture Chanley is holding what was described as a knife and "what looks like a handgun" was in his pants. I find that wording strange as if to indicate that the handgun was questionable. The defense would attempt to claim that this picture proved that the occupants had access to and was armed the night of the incident. They also say that this contradicted a statement made by Cesar Gonzalez had made stating the boys "weren't like that" when asked about having a gun. As said, the appeals court agreed with the trial court, and I too agree. While the picture was posted a full seven months after the incident it was never determine just when the picture had been taken. To add to this even if it had been determined when the picture had taken place it did not prove that the occupants had a gun on the night of the incident. The picture could have been taken on the day of the incident and still it would not prove that there had been on on the occupants. And, even if it had been proven that they did have a gun in their possession one would have to prove it had been fired. Gun shot residue tests on the victims and the car indicated that all shots were fired from outside the vehicle. Reasonably McGuire likely had GSR on his body, as well as the two occupants who were shot in the leg. Not to mention the GSR likely would have spread throughout the vehicle and could have been transferred, especially when Gonzalez admitted to moving Rory McGuire in attempts first to steer the car to a stop and later to attempt to go get help.
There are those who still argue that Wallin-Reed was in the right and had the right to defend his life and property. I disagree. Obviously the kids in the car were not doing something they should have and were just "being kids" but the second that Wallin-Reed stepped off his property and took chase he was no longer defending his life and property because of imminent danger to himself, family or home. He chased these kids for eight miles over a solar light...well two if you count the night before, but he had no way of knowing for sure it was the same group of people the second night. There is a fine line in which Wallin-Reed crossed when he went from the victim of a crime to the aggressor in yet another crime. A young man lost his life over a solar light.
Now, I admit to know very little about guns, how to use them or their functions so I asked questions and researched about this AR15 because I have heard a lot of talk about it in recent years as it is a popular weapon used in a lot of the mass shootings we hear about. I am not necessarily against guns in any way but I do believe they should have a purpose. Whether that purpose is self defense or hunting makes no difference to me and when it comes to guns, they all hold deadly bullets. In this case it appears the AR15 became and "illegal assault rifle" not because of the gun itself but for the clips that were used in them. I have been informed that a clip that holds twelve rounds is the maximum allowed as a citizen. Wallin-Reed's clip held twenty, hence the charge.
I also want to point out that as I went to the California Department of Corrections website to look up information on Wallin-Reed, I also put in the names of the occupants of the vehicle. Of course the fact that I did not find any of them does not mean that they have not had legal trouble but I can say that none of them are currently in a California prison. Hopefully this incident taught them a lesson.
"Hopefully this incident taught them a lesson". Harsh lesson.
ReplyDeleteI feel for his family, this young men ruined them. These people were actually living in the middle of nowhere and these guys went out looking for trouble at their home. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if they hadn't been stopped that night. What would they have done on the 3rd or more times? Perhaps taken things a bit further. They were obviously harassing these people and being out their with no cell service and police probably makes people feel more vulnerable especially when you have kids to protect. I wish they had just minded their own business, the young man would still be alive and those children would still live with their sweet father.
DeleteThe fact is that this whole ordeal could have simply been avoided if the persons in the McGuire vehicle hang not stopped.
DeleteThey came and harassed this man and his friends and family two.nigjts in a row. We all can sit here and judge people but until we are in their position we don't know what we would or wouldn't do
This is a very very sad situation all the way around.
I also have done some looking into it and there's something very strange about this whole case. Regardless of who did what no body should be locked away for life in this case because while there may not be grounds for self defense there's definitely grounds for Voluntary Manslaughter as the family was provoked by the constant harassment. Again this would not have happened if the individuals in the car didn't stop.
I pray that McGuire is in heaven and that this man will rejoin his family one day
I agree young adults/kids made a bad decision. But Chad made a worse decision by chasing them 8 miles off his property. He should have stopped at getting license plate and turned around to call in the issue. Based on the facts, Chad deserves every minute of his sentence. Lessons in responsibility of being a firearm owner and understanding stand your ground and castle laws.
DeleteChad Wallin-Reed would have killed someone eventually, guaranteed. He is a trumpster and he is a liar. Yes, the kids were wrong, but Chad Wallin-Reed is a killer regardless. I hope the kids learned a lesson too
DeleteThis is what is wrong permissive parenting that makes kids and the patents that raise them, believe they can disregard signage, have fun harassing people on private property, and then be free of any consequences. If any person is so bold as to trespass onto someone else's property, they should accept the consequences of whatever kind of of crazy they encounter in doing so. These kids weren't taught respect but I have to assume at least one of them was literate.
DeleteSo, instead of calling the police to report the incident, he took the law into his own hands. He chased them down over solar lights. Yes the young men were wrong, but that’s why we have laws and 911. Once the young men had left, there was no danger to his family , he should have called the police, got the license plate number and maybe Chad would be home with his family.
DeleteI am not sure I am replying in the right area, but I want to say that Chad is exactly where he ought to be. True, these young men were not behaving like choir boys that night, but Chad should have got their license plate number and let the authorities deal with it. Instead he played judge and executioner and then LIED about everything. He and his wife then used his children as pawns for sympathy. The whole thing is just sickening!
DeleteChad should not be in prison. Prosecution was a dullard and the kids should have never been on this mans property taunting them.
DeleteBlaming parents and saying they aren’t teaching their kids respect, etc, is just asinine and ridiculous. Kids will be kids and they are all going to do stupid things, whether it’s to show off for their friends or just because they’re bored. Once they get caught and face the consequences, it usually scares the crap out of them and they learn their lesson.
DeleteBut thinking it’s okay for a grown man to chase kids down and kill them over a stupid prank is even more asinine and ridiculous!
These kids stopped at the edge of the driveway and shined a spotlight down the driveway towards the cabin, then one hopped out, snatched a solar light from the driveway, hopped back in, and they took off down the road.
They were annoying but they weren’t terrorizing anyone. Nobody had any reason to fear for their safety, they were just irritated and tired of the kids annoying them.
Normal people would just call the police. Unfortunately the adults inside the cabin were either stupid or possibly too intimidated by the man with anger/rage issues, so they didn’t intervene when he decided to act insane and go postal on some annoying kids, despite the fact that he was grown, married, and even had kids of his own.
Idiots saying he was protecting his property or his family need to explain what he was protecting them from… bright lights shining in the window? Or a few $5 solar lights? Pfft. There was never an attack or threat towards either, so there was no need for any protection other than something simple, like maybe installing motion lights and cameras.
If he was worried about his family or his property, he’d have stayed there to protect them, especially after it had just happened! He obviously felt they were safe because he left them so that he could go chase down and kill some pranksters because they annoyed him.
What an idiot chasing a car full of young men for absolutely nothing and shooting at them whilst doing so. Him and the mother terrifying the children about needing protected. An idiot man who was in the army never in combat with ptsd? He sounds more like a little boy himself that likes to play with guns to make him feel manly. Deserves every year he got
ReplyDeleteHe lied about being an Army Ranger among other things...one was saying the boys shot a gun while speeding away. I am glad he is in prison.
DeleteWhat an idiot chasing a car full of young men for absolutely nothing and shooting at them whilst doing so. Him and the mother terrifying the children about needing protected. An idiot man who was in the army never in combat with ptsd? He sounds more like a little boy himself that likes to play with guns to make him feel manly. Deserves every year he got
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DeleteWhat an idiot chasing a car full of young men for absolutely nothing and shooting at them whilst doing so. Him and the mother terrifying the children about needing protected. An idiot man who was in the army never in combat with ptsd? He sounds more like a little boy himself that likes to play with guns to make him feel manly. Deserves every year he got
ReplyDeleteWhat an idiot chasing a car full of young men for absolutely nothing and shooting at them whilst doing so. Him and the mother terrifying the children about needing protected. An idiot man who was in the army never in combat with ptsd? He sounds more like a little boy himself that likes to play with guns to make him feel manly. Deserves every year he got
ReplyDeleteWallin-Reed is a lying motherfucker and will rightly rot and die in prison. He was forced out of the army because he was a liar and a thief, just as he lied about being a Ranger and serving in combat. None of that happened, of course, because he is a coward. He is a knuckle-dragging dipshit with no honor or character.
ReplyDeleteA lot of sniveling cowards hide behind their weapons because they think it makes them a big man. Having an AR-15 and dressing up like GI Joe makes them feel powerful. It takes them from being the cowardly loser they are and propels them into being somebody to be reckoned with. It makes them feel important in a way that nothing else can. And without the gun, they are nobody. The gun tells them they matter.
Chasing a car full of unarmed kids 8 miles down a dirt road and then firing on them once they’re trapped isn’t “self-defense,” it’s murder. And Wallin-Reed is exactly where he needs to be.
Hopefully, some of the little men who feel like they need to hide behind a gun to be a man will look at what happened to this assclown and avoid playing Dirty Harry and going to prison themselves.
The lessons learned here aren’t just for the college kids, it’s also for the GI Joes who think having a gun and playing army makes them somebody.
Thank you for having my brothers back.
DeleteI think you may be getting replies from 2021, as I just saw the episode two nights ago. Wallon or whoever his name lied about the incident. He is a psycho that needs to rot in prison.
DeleteYes 💯. He should have gotten the death penalty.
DeleteThis guy sounds paranoid delusional. So sad to hear his kids talk and how he filled them with the same irrational paranoia. Wife sounds delusional too. The guy is where he belongs. Was looking for a reason to play Rambo and thought his bs about being ex-military ranger would be his “get away with murder” card.
ReplyDeleteYeah his wife sounds like she’s a bit dim in the head. Imagine the poor kids, someday they’ll realize that their dad wasn’t protecting from monsters, he is the monster
DeleteThank you guys for being nice and smart about what happened to my brother
DeleteAs soon as he left his property he wasn’t defending anyone. He’ll die in jail exactly as he should. He’s a coward who lies about everything to justify murder.
ReplyDeleteLol this old guy shot and killed my brother and laughed about. And not to mention he lied about military backgrounds. Don’t talk and speak on things you don’t know
ReplyDeleteAnd this was in 2011 why are you still watching
ReplyDeleteMy brothers murder is still posted. My brother was the best person and my whole heart and the light of life to anyone
ReplyDeleteCould be. But if he had minded his own business ( 2x !!!) nothing at all would have happened to them. " Just being kids" as the blogger mentioned...no! A 20yo is not a kid.
DeleteThis doesn't mean I agree with the shooter. There was no need to chase them. The warning shot was enough.
Faith, hi my name is Lexy, I’ve just listened to the dateline episode. Quarantine and being clinically vulnerable I’m listening to a lot of “older” episodes of stuff.
ReplyDeleteI wasn’t going to comment, but when I saw your name I just….it won’t make you feel better I know but I am so so sorry for your and your families loss. Regardless of right or wrong, someone lost their life and that is deserving of respect and compassion.
I hope you and your family are coping best you
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I just listened to this on Dateline podcast and had to come find somewhere to comment. This m*th*rf*ck*r really tried to argue self-defense after he chased these boys eight miles. WTSF?! He should have gotten charged with stolen valor too after lying about his military service! His wife seems like a cult wife protecting her cult leader husband. Those poor children are going to realize when they grow up that their dad was a sad little man on a power trip that overreacted to some teenagers doing what teenagers do. I feel like Chad (such a telling name) was a few years away from starting a cult compound up in the mountains. I'm so sorry to Rory's family, that's such a terrible way to lose your loved one. The other boys in the car that night are going to be scarred for life by what this monster did that night. I hope he never sees freedom again.
ReplyDeleteTeenagers? The murdered guy at 20yo?
DeleteThe world is a better place with Chad Wallin-Reed locked up. Anyone who worships this clearly disturbed, paranoid, psycho as a hero, please seek counseling for your anger and delusion before you end up just like him. And his simple wife clearly has the mentality of a 4 year old. She can barely form a thought of her own and is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
DeleteJust listened to the episode. Dumb kids doing dumb shit gets you dumb shit.
ReplyDeleteFaith....I bet your a blast at parties. And hey LMFAO. Sounded like a legit article to me. Looking at everything. Your just wanting that sympathy. Pathetic.
ReplyDelete“FaItH” headass
DeleteI agree with faith that the homicidal violence that happened that night was unjustified. I’ve done stupid juvenile crimes like taking property and damaging property. You know you’re taking a risk of being caught, but to be chased down by a veteran with military training? Toting a .380 and an AR-15 assault rifle with 20 round magazines? He admittedly went into a ‘zone’ as he chased them for 8 miles. I think he let his rage boil over that night, he could have helped after realizing what he’d done but he went home and waited. His story changed numerous times and I don’t believe the kids had a pistol in their vehicle. If they had one of the kids would’ve cracked under the investigators pressure either as a result of guilt of their friends death or to get a better deal as a result of criminal charges. I feel bad for Rory’s family, as well as Chad’s family. As a man who’s been shot in an attempted robbery during a drug deal I can say having a gun shot at you is a frightening experience and shouldn’t happen unless you’re posing a serious threat. The shotgun barrel was pressed against my head from outside my vehicle as I heard foot steps running up to my vehicle I sped off. I thought they were trying to reach in and unlock my door but it was a gun barrel that hit my temple. I heard a loud bang and my car lit up for a split-second, then my ears rang. I was with a friend and as I reached safety I looked at my right hand and saw a drop of blood. I asked if he was hot and he assured me he wasn’t. Then I looked at my left hand and I was shocked by what I saw. The whole top of my hand was gone. I could see into the top of my hand as if all my skin had been peeled off. I wasn’t in pain but was losing a lot of blood. We switched spots as he raced for a local hospital. I started putting all my cash into my glove box, getting blood all over the bills.
DeleteMy buddy who was with me I had only met hours earlier at a bar. I didn’t trust the kid I was meeting and asked him if he’d go with since he was a college football player. I told him I’d give him $100 and all the weed he could smoke on the way there and back and he agreed. He told me he would be going to the hospital with me but he’d be leaving me there to go in on my own. I agreed that he wasn’t part of the deal, he didn’t know me or the shooter and neither of us could identify him/her.
I walked into the ER for the first time in my life, holding my left hand with my right arm. People were waiting in line so that’s what I did. Then, a young black lady in front of me turned around in curiosity and yelled out ‘Holy sh*t!’ And the staff took notice. They rushed a wheel chair out and brought me into the back where they gave me an injection of dilaudid I think. When the police came to talk to me I lied about what happened just saying that I dropped this kid off and he tried to rob me. They knew I was lying and tried to get my to incriminate myself but I knew better. They even said my roommate was there and he told them what really happened. I knew that was b.s, and told them that’s all I knew then the doctors asked them to leave.
I know I went off topic into my own experience. I apologize for that, but I really feel like the DA and the jury got this right. I’m all for gun rights, but why do assault rifles like this have to be owned by regular citizens? There’s no need for a gun like this, nobody except someone trying to kill a person(s) would have a need for something that packs that much power.
Yeah, foks are mad at this guy, but nobody is thinking about the fact that these MEN (they were ALL over the age of 18) were driving around drinking, bored, looking for trouble not only the 1st night, but WENT BACK A 2ND NIGHT! Messing with things that did not belong to them. People living out in remote areas have guns for protection - ANY 1/2 wit would know that. Seems none of these 6 MEN were even so much as 1/2 witted. Someone commented about how he chased them. If he hadn't, what would have kept them from coming back a 3rd night? How do we know that even was their 1st 2 nights? They CLAIMED they were going for a party BOTH nights, but had NOBODY testify that there even WAS a party EITHER night. Several of the car's occupants had GSR on their hand and it was INSIDE the car. So they managed to get rid of the gun(s). Something folks don't get is that frame of mind is where you get intent. I was shocked he was convicted. Then I saw why. He really was in the Army, but embellished what he told people he did while in. As a military wife and daughter, that disgusts me. Does NOT mean he didn't have a right to defend his family!! He was convicted because the prosecutor was allowed to taint the jury with that embellishment and it pissed them off. Well, that and the fact that it happened in California!! Libtard Central!! I will be shocked if my comment is allowed to remain on here...
ReplyDeleteHe has the right to defend his property. He doesn't have the right to LEAVE his property and chase people down, much less shoot at them. That's law enforcement's job. You say "libtard California," but there's no state in the nation where you're allowed to chase unarmed people miles away from your home and shoot at them the whole way. I truly believe that you understand that, and that you know you're making a disingenuous argument.
DeleteYou can look up dateline again or better yet gone to the trial and tell me you’d agree with chasing boys miles and miles with an AR15 and laser and walking up and shooting is right. Stop commenting on shit you have no clue about
DeleteHi Faith, I commented below somewhere but wanted to make sure you know that I'm very sorry that wanna be John Rambo Reed did this to Rory and your family. He was a pos soldier who had to lie about his service record to cover up his real story. I hope you have found peace in light of what this pos did. Signed, A vet who cares.
DeleteWell, I'll tell you what faith, I wasn't going to comment to you as you're just the sister and didn't do anything. I feel bad for you losing a brother. Your comments show that you agree with the fact that your brother was driving around drunk, harassing innocent people like the children in that house, vandalizing and stealing things that didn't belong to them, and then even going back a 2nd night. They thought that there were 6 of them and who tf did this person think they were posting this sign. They were gonna show him! I noticed they were not charged for their part in this. But again, it's CA... If this guy hadn't defended his family, how many more nights would your thug brother and his thug friends have continued?
ReplyDeleteWas this even their 1st 2 nights? The cabin had been broken into before. That how they paid for their booze?
Wallin-Reed is violent and either delusional, a pathological liar, or both. I was appalled watching the Dateline episode to see both him and his wife claim (repeatedly) that he done nothing wrong, after a person is dead and two others were seriously injured. After he chased people whose only crime appears to be stealing a solar light at the entrance of the property, cornered them, and shot to kill. What was particularly disturbing to me was how he developed this story as time went on that they were shooting at him; he only started to incorporate it into his police testimony after Roy was dead (it's also notable that no one else corroborated this, not even Wallin-Reed's passenger), and then he seemed to just fixate on it and embellish. The look in his eyes while he was trying to convince the interviewer of this was chillingly insane.
ReplyDeleteIt is quite apparent that he compulsively lies, and the duration of his vehicular chase/armed assault gives more than adequate grounds for murder in the first degree. He had time to rethink his actions, and chose to continue. As you said, the distance traveled from his house and his relentless firing at the other car renders Wallin-Reed the assaulter, and the occupants of Roy's car would have been justified in trying to defend themselves. Which they couldn't do, because they were clearly unarmed (I would remind naysayers that the testimony presented by the forensic council hired by the defense was refuted and did not hold up to scientific scrutiny).
It was not surprising to me that the jury took only 3 hours to reach a unanimous testimony: the prosecution proved the charges without a shadow of a doubt. Unfortunately it was also not surprising that ignorant, gun-toting extremists persist in the delusion that his actions were somehow justified. I can only hope for most it is due to a shallow understanding of the case permeated with misinformation regarding the details... anyone who thinks it is alright to chase a car full of unarmed people for miles while repeatedly shooting at them, aiming for the head, with ammunition capable of piercing metal, resulting in murder and serious injury is someone who should be precluded from purchasing a gun. In no way is it ok to kill someone over a solar light, for fuck's sake..
I am glad that this unhinged and violent murderer is no longer able to directly endanger the public. I can only imagine the violence he would bring to public spaces in this era of cult fervor and widespread misinformation dissemination and targeted disinformation campaigns.
Well said!!
DeleteWell said!!
DeleteSaw this on dateline I dont see how the jury came back guilty! the punks shouldnt have messed with and on his property even if the thought the sign(that warned them) was a joke, its a shame though Rory had to learn the hard way no one deserved to die. They shouldnt have felt entitled to do what the hell they wanted to do.
ReplyDeleteI would say that it's Wallin-Reed who shouldn't have felt entitled to murder people. That you find murder to be less egregious a crime than trespassing (and they did not enter or even come near the house) speaks to your own violent nature.
DeleteHi Lexy thank you so much for your kind words and especially when people put their 2 cents in and think they knew what happened💗
ReplyDeleteHi Lexy seeing your comment made me happy and people don’t know the situation at all. Thank you for being kind ❤️
ReplyDeleteTo the unknown user….my “thug” brother that’s dead and I had to see dead in a casket with bullets in his head for NOTHING him or his friends deserved you have no right to comment on anyone’s shit
ReplyDeleteAnd if you’d like to talk to me about my brother my names Faith Fox so you can hmu
ReplyDeleteCrazy anyone would justify Wallin-Reed here he's a thug and you people defending him - he said he was an Army Ranger and that was all bullshit. He never even saw combat. He had a dishonorable discharge. And you just believe his side of the story? Even his house guests don't corraborate his story. I'm glad he got 84 yrs and it says it all the jury took 3 hours to come back with a verdict. He was totally full of shit. If a shootout happened in front of his property that might be understandable but he chased these kids 8 MILES. That is a LONG WAY especially out in the wilderness that's a good 10 minutes of driving. He's a murderer. Bottom line.
ReplyDeleteFact is a life is more important than a 10.00 solar light. No one can say they never did silly teenage pranks. Reed had the right to file a vandalism report, but once he left his property he was no longer obeying the law. He or his family were not in danger and a reasonable sane person would have called the police. What he did is deliberately hunt those young men down with the intent to shoot them all. After chasing for 8 miles and shooting at them he surely knew he was in no danger and he had time to request assistance from the law. Sadly a young man is dead and you don't get how wrong this man was. From his weird sign to lying about combat duty to being asked to leave the military it's obvious to any sane person that this man has mental problems. Add to that he did not call for help for over an hour and you can see he felt no remorse. Even worse he felt righteous in taking a life and never felt any compassion for anyone. He is right where he belongs as he would of killed eventually as he is a sick man.
ReplyDeleteI guess no body has seen the Wild Justice Video about this. Wallin-Reed was begging for the officers to allow him to take them to where the young men were. His was in complete shock and emotional distress and the officers or rather game wardens dismissed him. Anyone who says that he didn't tell the law enforcement that he was shot at is apparently not paying attention to the details. Wallin-Reed 3 times during the 911 call stated he was shot at. Ge also said it several times to the game officials and he stated it to the first Sheriff deputy on the scene. So why people are saying he never said he was shot at is perplexing.
DeleteAs for the comment about it taking him so long to call...retrace the facts on that. The people at the cabin said he was gone for 20-30 minutes so he had to drive back to the cabin that would take 20-30 mins then they had to drive to get cell phone coverage which took how long? Another 20-30 mins. Right there that's a hour to an hour and a half. Remember this is in the middle of nowhere. There's no just grab a phone and call. Also of interest is that the Sheriff department had two reports of break ins from Wallin-Reed however the Sheriff department decided not to respond because of the distance plus they stated that they make one coortesy patrol a year....a year... people if that doesn't say cutoff I don't know what does. Sure people play pranks....this wasn't a prank... this was repeated harassment and yes they did come on his property... the individuals who were in the car stated that at the trial..they took pictures of themselves vandalizing Wallin-Reed's property and Wallin-Reed's friends camp.
I can't believe people are going to excuse the behavior of these criminals and they were criminals because my dad investigated them and they had criminal records. Two of them fled the state when subpoenas were being served for them to testify on behalf of there friend Rory. Why would they flee.
Another little fact that you all seem to miss and dateline didn't report was the stipulating agreement between the DA and defense counsel about Wallin-Reed's military service and that was three things
1 Wallin-Reed was not a Ranger however he received Ranger training and served served with Rangers
2 Wallin-Reed received extensive combat training and experience
3 Wallin-Reed is not recognized as serving in any theaters of war.
So I am a little confused by this stipulating agreement that is on record.
Everyone says what a piece of garbage Wallin-Reed is for living about being a Ranger yet the DA says he received Ranger training and served with Rangers. So how is this? Well thank goodness I have a family member who explained it.. Wallin-Reed was not a Ranger tab holder however he served in the Ranger units. Apparently you not all Rangers go through Ranger school to get their tab. Next is this statement that about receiving extensive combat training and experience? How do you get that when people are claiming he wasn't in combat? Well you don't! The places Wallin-Reed claimed to have been in combat are not theaters of war but they are combat operations or rather listed as Humanitarian Operation. All convenient for the DA and dateline to make statements about Wallin-Reed after his interview.
What happened that night in the middle of nowhere was a horrible tragedy. I want to say that I would have done something different than Wallin-Reed however I don't really know because until I am in that situation.
Wallin-Reed was in our jail for 30 months and at no time did he ever display any type of behavior that would lead me to believe he was violent.
His family came and visited him every weekend and they were all very loving towards one another.
He has been painted as a monster and I never saw that side. 30 months is a long time. No one hides anything for 30 months.
Did he lie about some details of what happened like the AR15..yes however a lot of facts got twisted up.
I hope Wallin-Reed will be released and that the McGuire family finds piece
Rebecca bless your heart. Sounds like a violent man explained all this to you so you could understand it. Please find a safe place to decompress and find peace. And never, never chase unarmed people for 8 miles to shoot them in cold blood.
Deleterebecca great post I agree with every point
DeleteWow. There was injustice here. Father defending his family, put in jail for teenagers messing with his family.
ReplyDeleteHe chased a car for 8 miles and shot unarmed men in cold blood. That’s called murder. They deserved this because they stole 2 solar light? He also lied about being an Army Ranger and being in combat. Thank God he’s behind bars for the rest of his life.
DeleteFaith, your brother and his friends were wrong but, still, Chad Wallin-Reed is a monster and your brother did not deserve death for being stupid. I wish Chad Wallin-Reed had got the death penalty. I don't believe trump supporters are worth anything other than to remind us good Christians that Satan does rule the world for a time being and that the road is narrow.
ReplyDeleteSome comments don't make sense. Chasing a vehicle and shooting into it is against the law. I agree with another comment that if not then, he would have eventually shot and murdered someone else. I pretty sure the young men learned a lesson of a lifetime. This incident was neither a stand your ground action or protecting personal property.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting reading all the comments here. I watched Dateline last night and spent a few hours researching the written indictment and case. Wallin-Reed was a scumbag. A Stolen Valor angry macho-bullshit lying scumbag. We all agree. I also think he got the sentence he deserved. BUT what no one has mentioned is the fact that criminals many times come back to the crime scene to finish their work. I'm sure Wallin-Reed was afraid of this and the distinct possibility that in the near future, he would be looking at the business end of gun with his wife and kids tied up in the next room scared him to his core. But Reed should have just gotten their plate then went home.
ReplyDeleteThese 20 year old idiots messed with the wrong guy even after reading his sociopathic warning sign. I teach my boys all the time: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It's bad all around but no matter how many years Wallin-Reed spends in jail, Rory isn't coming back. He and his friends brought this upon themselves. The whole thing is not fair and it's not right. But sticking your finger in a hornet's nest and being surprised you got stung shows some true bad judgement.
Six adults drinking and driving and playing I dare you to : 1 get by this warning sign 2 steel something of the owner ( a sign, a solar light, or do it again like you said you did last night.) By being six males boosted there behavior to breaking the law repeatedly. These young adults went back again to the same place looking for a party. I do not believe that! These criminals took off from that owner knowing he was mad and who knows maybe they shined their spotlight on him as another dare before his 2nd shot. Thus blinding him to nearly wrecking which changed him to shoot at them. They were thieves, then was it a another dare to smash the solar light or lights. I imagine his adrenaline and his anger pushed him to being out of control. What a fun night to remember July 4th, a holiday night to celebrate, get drunk and party on just like we did July 3rd. Now this man is serving a prison sentence, your friend is dead, two of you severely wounded, all are traumatized. All are fortunate he did not kill all of you and hide your bodies and car from the final resting place. Then who could testify? We never know when our last day may be and are we ready to stand on judgment day?
DeleteAll of this heartache could have been saved if those guys had just not trespassed, there were warnings for a reason.
ReplyDeleteChad is crazy, but he and his family were minding their business on their property till those guys came to him. Twice. It’s sad that so many family’s are ruined because of angst and stupidity.
This message is for Faith. I am truly sorry that this pos wanna be Rambo killed your brother. This Reed guy was a lying pos who had to enhance his military record because he was a pile of crap soldier. He gives veterans a bad name. I pray that you have found peace. Signed, A vet who cares.
ReplyDeleteIf they wouldn't have been there this wouldn't have happened. I agree he shouldn't have chased them and what he did was absolutely wrong. He's where he should be. But why were they there? Bad decisions always pile up. Some responsibility should be placed on them. All for a party...
DeleteWallin-Reed being an absolutely despicable human being is an indisputable fact . In order to maintain my faith in humanity, I’ve got to assume all the “tHeY dESeRvEd iT” morons commenting are actually his equally delusional wife.
ReplyDeleteThis is not the facts to the story...the young men did not go to the area to terrorize the residents, they were invited to a party but were unable to find it so they road around and parked in random areas goofing around and shining the spot light they admitted right away to seeing campers and shining the light on them and bothering them by continuing to do it after they were yelled at..then 1 told them about weird signs about
ReplyDeletegod and trespassing so they went to see them and 1 stole a dollar store light then they left after and went home the next night they were invited to the same lake house party and met up with others so they'd be able to find the place but ended up getting lost again and went past the signs again so 1 being an immature 19 yr old jumped out and stole 2 more lights which caused a grown man to chase them down for 8 miles and hunt them with a hand gun and assault rifle even after they flagged a white shirt threw the lights out, etc after the car couldn't drive anymore he approached the car ready to fire saying you shot at my house and found 2 shot kids who said they didn't shoot and dont have any guns then begged for their life and asked him to call for help his response was if you Mf'ers ever step foot on my property again I'll kill u then went home and told everyone he thinks he killed someone but never mentioned them shooting at him and didn't call the police for almost an hour...look up what the signs said
And to anyone who knows what the signs said...what's your thoughts?? They make me think he posted them hoping trouble came his way and he thought the guys in the car were smugglers for the cartel either looking for packages or the Marijuana fields so they could tend to them..he thought they were illegal immigrants smuggling any and everything and he could kill them and no one would bat an eye
ReplyDeleteA man has a right to defend himself but once he got in that truck with an AR-15 and chased those boys that far down the road he was just looking to kill. He has been proven to be a liar and he hunted those like dogs. He is right where he needs to be.
ReplyDeleteA lot of bad, stupid decisions made that night. 20-year-old men still do not have their brains fully installed. They do stupid things. Wallin-Reed was a grown-ass man with a family— he can and must be held to a higher standard. He is where he belongs because he surely would have killed someone eventually. He’s also a stolen valor pussy— can’t prosecute him for that, but I won’t forgive him, either. Such a tragic story all around
ReplyDeleteHe tried to use PTSD and lied about his time in military. Yes he was in military but the military threw him out about stolen valor and lying on sick leave paperwork, so he was asked to leave military. He deserves jail for taking the law into his own hands.
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ReplyDeleteThose kids were certainly not behaving like choir boys that night, but Chad should have just chased them long enough to get their license number and then let the police deal with things. The fact that he lied about that night and his military service is also deeply disturbing. I think he was an "incident waiting to happen" and unfortunately those young men came in contact. He is exactly where he needs to be. I also resent that he and his wife have used the children like pawns for publicity.
ReplyDeleteI think that they had no right to steal from his property, and not once but twice they showed up uninvited to steal again. I'm sorry that a life was lost. But what would you do if it happened at your house? How scared does your family have to be before you do something?
ReplyDelete“But what would you do if it happened at your house?” I would buy a new solar light and not go to prison.
DeleteSure they were lost.... One of them worked for the forestry service up there so come on. These immature adults went looking for trouble and they found it. None of this would of happened if they had just left Wallin-Reed alone. They set the wrecking ball in motion. He was in the middle of nowhere with his family and friends minding his own business when a car load of people show up and harass Wallin-Reed's friends and family. People are actually trying to defend and excuse their actions and whoever wrote the original article couldn't even get the facts right. If Wallin-Reed wanted to murder these people why didn't he when they wrecked and he walked up to the car. They fucked with him and fucked with him until he reached his breaking point. When you watch the Wild Justice video you can tell he was freaked out. They dared him and he answered. In the future don't fuck around with people.
ReplyDeleteI had sympathy for Wallin-Reed until it was revealed that he lied about his military experiences by not being a Ranger and had lied about bring in combat overseas. To me he is a disgrace to our country as so many men having lost their lives for our country diminishing there sacrifices for his own personal gain being lucky he only got life in prison. For me he should have been charged and sentenced to serve in a military prison for life being a coward.
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